Any starting scenario could lead to a 4-5 hour game—the important part is to play all three phases of play. In the third phase, the group is required to rescue all of the remaining characters in the game, which can take quite some time. And if it's taking too long organically, the GM can just increase the rate at which the remaining characters are encountered. It's a very flexible game that way.
Big fan of the content and I have had some good fun tweaking some of the elements of the game. Is there any chance to get editable versions of the downloadable products, so I can have more refined printed pages. Just to clear up some verbiage and typos. I would really appreciate it. Thank you.
Not releasing those base files at the moment, they're too complex and labyrinthine and I'll likely make an additional version of the game before I want to release them. But if you want to share your thoughts on improvements, feel free to join the discord or send any suggestions or documents over to jurassicparkedgeofchaos@gmail.com
1) I found that 1 of each Attack and Chaos card is ideal—though if you think certain events should be more common than others, you may want to throw in an extra of those—something like Bite may make for more realistic play, and having multiple Carnivore Attack cards would make for more challenging play. What I found is that Item, Weapon, Dinosaur, and Vehicle cards are the ones that need multiples in their respective decks—items like Keys, Medical Kits, and Food should have at least 2 if not 3 or 4 cards, ammunition and dart gun cards should have multiples, and Jeep Wranglers should be more common than other vehicles. If you want the main film characters to show up more than the ancillary characters, having an additional card of each of the leads is also a good idea. For Dinosaurs, any animal that can have a pack should have at least 3 cards—I ended up printing 5 Compys because their pack mechanic can really multiply, and 5 Raptors because I wanted them to be more common. I meant to put a guide together for printing, but I've been busy on some other projects. I'll try to get around to that at some point soon.
2) There are some maps, character cards, item cards, and weapon cards for the Sorna version that I completed for the alpha version of the game, but they're pretty out of date and don't fully match up with the updates in the system and the designs are quite out of date. There is a faction mechanic on Sorna (Hunters, Gatherers, and Scavengers) with the human element being as dangerous as the dinosaur element, taking inspiration from a combination of the Lost World film and book. The mechanics of Sorna would need to be significantly different, with each faction having different win conditions (e.g. the Scavengers of Dodgson, King, and Baselton having to collect eggs and get off the island) and while I'd love to get around to it sometime, it's really a full project in and of itself. My ambition got the better of me. Some day!
@EdgeofChaos first of all, thank you so much for putting this together. It's amazing!
Second, below is the count of each card I employed based on your comment and inferring the rest from what I think was the intent. Please let me know if you'd have any recommendations to adjust these numbers:
1x each of Apex Predator, Attack, Chaos, Characters, and Locations cards.
Carnivores includes 1x each, except:
2x Herrerrasaurus, Pteranodon
3x Proceratosaurus
5x Compsognathus, and Velociraptor
Herbivores includes 1x each, except:
2x Parasaurolophus
5x Gallimimus
Items includes 1x each, except:
2x Flashlight, Handheld Radio, and Raincoat
3x of Canteen and Flare
4x of Batteries, Food, Keyring, and Medical Kit
Vehicles includes 1x each, except:
2x of Ford Cutaway Shuttle Bus, Ford Transit Maintenance Van, Jeep Comanche, Kawasaki Golf Cart, and Mobile Vet Clinic
3x of Ford Explorer, Kawasaki Motorcycle, and Mountain Bike
6x of Jeep Wrangler
Weapons includes 1x each, except:
2x Electrified Net Gun, Machete, Pistol, and Tranquilizer Rifle
3x Electrified Net, Pocket Knife, Shock Prod, and Tranquilizer Pistol
4x Pistol Ammo, Shotgun Ammo, and Tranquilizer Darts
Any advice you can suggest on this list is greatly appreciated. I tried to imagine what your vision may have been but any guidance would help.
That's fantastic! You've more or less nailed it. I've taken a look at my set, which I've tweaked a couple of times for balance, and the only real differences I see:
Weapons
2x Gas Grenade, 5x Tranquilizer Darts (since they work in multiple weapons)
Items
5x First Aid Kit, 5x Keyring
Vehicles
3x Kawasaki Golf Cart
Locations
2x Security Bunker, 2x Supply Bunker, 2x Holding Pen (I like more dinosaur variety), 3x Steam Tunnel (the mechanic adds variety to play)
I know there were discussions amongst some community members of putting one together, but I'm an English speaker. If you have any interest in creating a translation yourself, let me know and I can share the raw text.
Eu traduzi o livro do jogardor completo, hoje dia 13/09/2024 eu esttou publicando aqui nos comenatarios para quem quiser, ainda estou traduzindo as cartas e mapas mas colocarei aqui quando tiver pronto.
agradeço dicas e sujestoes e qualquer coisa so aviasar aqui mesmo pelos comentarios.
I translated the complete player's handbook, today 09/13/2024 I am publishing it here in the comments for whoever wants it, I am still translating the cards and maps but I will post them here when it is ready.
I appreciate tips and suggestions and if you have any questions just let me know here in the comments.
Hey, first of all - I really adore the idea behind the cards, especially for animals, reflecting their instinctive behaviour. I'm planning to test the game soon. But I need some clarifications. How do stats work (in sense of mechanics/die rolls)? They are supposed to "determine the character’s abilities and effectiveness in various situations throughout the game", but I don't see any examples, except "while one (NPC) with high Strength could be pivotal in a confrontation with a hungry carnivore", but it isn't helpful. Am I missing something? Second - is there any difference between "Dinosaurs on the Brain" and "Animal Handling" expertises? They sound exactly the same. Do their effects stack? Another question - Search icon indicates, that an area is searchable and a 6 is a success, but some locations (e.g. bungalow) require halving the result. So according to the rules a PC cannot find anything there? Or they find something on a 3 (5-6 result on a die)? Or "natural" 6 always means success (I guess not, then halving makes no sense)? And last one - how does lethal damage work? The weapon cards lack any damage ratings. Does each weapon deal 1 damage per shot? Or some of them should be more lethal? Do PCs need to make a check to hit something? Anyway, great job!
Hey, appreciate the feedback! And great catches. I'm currently working with some folks on a second version of the game at the moment, and I'll definitely include clarification in these areas. What you picked up on is primarily stuff that was changed between drafts and never readdressed. For now, here are some thoughts:
Stats primarily exist in the current version for the purposes of more immersive roleplay, in helping the group or the Game Warden determine effects of Attack and Chaos Cards, as well as effectiveness of player actions. In retrospect, it makes sense to include a D6 roll for Strength/Insight/etc. Check. when performing relevant actions. TBH they were more important in an earlier, crunchier draft. For reference, here is some of that section from the previous draft if you want to incorporate:
All characters are ranked between 1 and 5 in the categories of Courage, Insight, and Strength. A lower rank means that the character is less skilled in this area, while a higher rank means that this character is more skilled in this area. Stats are primarily used in situations where a Game Warden wants a player to check their character’s ability in a given area to determine if they succeed or fail at their action.
To make a stat check, the player will roll a D6 and compare the result to their relevant stat. If the result of the roll is equal or lower, the player succeeds. If the result of the roll is higher, the player fails. Rolling a 1 is always a critical success, with the character performing the action with ease, achieving the most desirable version of their intended action. Rolling a 6 is always a critical failure, with the character facing negative consequences to their actions such as injury or placing the character in a disadvantageous position for the next turn.
For example, if a player with a ranking of 2 in Insight wants to understand whether their character perceives any danger when entering a new building, they would perform an Insight Check. When they roll a D6 they get a 3. Because this is higher than their Insight rank, they fail the action and do not perceive danger even if it is present. Had the player rolled a 2 or a 1, they would have perceived any danger present.
Courage: Courage reflects a character's resolve, bravery, and ability to face danger or fear. It's not just about recklessness; it's about the capacity to confront challenging or perilous situations with composure and determination. Characters with high Courage are often seen taking the lead in risky scenarios, making tough decisions under pressure, or standing their ground against overwhelming odds.
Insight: Insight encompasses a character's intelligence, awareness, and observational skills. It involves the ability to analyze situations, understand complex systems, and deduce information from subtle clues. Characters with high Insight are adept at problem-solving, strategizing, and foreseeing potential outcomes. They excel in gathering and interpreting data, understanding dinosaur behavior, and navigating the park's technological systems.
Strength: Strength is a measure of a character's physical prowess, endurance, and ability to perform demanding physical tasks. It's not just about brute force; it's also about stamina and the capacity to handle physically challenging situations. Characters with high Strength can perform feats like lifting heavy objects, enduring physical strain, and engaging in hand-to-hand combat or other physically demanding activities.
"Dinosaurs on the Brain" and "Animal Handling" are indeed the same at the moment, due to a last minute change to how the Dinosaur Detectives item works. For the purposes of play at the moment, you can combine the two into just "Dinosaurs on the Brain."
When a dice icon is halved, the resulting dice roll should be rounded up. This makes it a 1/3 chance of finding an item rather than a 1/6 chance.
For weapons and health, this was another victim of the crunch-cutting of the stats, as well as changing the information present on the weapons cards. A D6 should be rolled when attacking, with 1-2 being ineffective, 3-4 being low damage (likely 1 damage, at the discretion of the GW), and 5-6 being direct hit (likely 2 damage, at the discretion of the GW). For a natural 6 on a grenade launcher, the GW may determine that it is a fatal hit, or a natural 6 on a pocket knife against a brachiosaurus may result in the loss of 1 health.
Excited to hear the results of your test, would love any and all feedback on areas of improvement.
My gaming group just had our first run of the game. Everybody loves it, but I did face similar questions from my group as Haakwurm. If you could provide some clarity, I think the biggest questions that came up are:
In combat, what are the intended results for player who don't have weapons or choose not to attack, thus no way to reduce the Attack Card deck? For example, in an encounter with Compys, only one player had found a weapon and the others were doing actions like hiding or unarmed kicks/stomps. At the time, I ruled characters who successfully hide don't get attacked or kicking a Compy stuns it for one round, but I'd appreciate your advice.
During an Apex Predator attack, what determines how the encounter ends? Since it uses all Attack Cards, do players just need to survive long enough through hiding and distracting to deplete the whole deck or do the Attack Cards get shuffled? Do the players all need to leave the hex they're in or does the Apex Predator follow? This kinda goes hand-in-hand with question 1, since we're trying to understand the result of non-combat related actions.
Regardless of these first-time hiccups, everybody had a blast and enjoyed the rules-lite nature of the game. We all really got into it and have decided to continue playing.
Love to hear it! And this is all super helpful feedback for the next edition of the game where I can add some additional clarity around these points, or make any adjustments if players have recommendations for improvements.
Any additional thoughts or anecdotes from the session would be welcome.
1. It is an attempt to replicate the scenes from the original film where these are not characters trained in combat, but civilians trying to survive. Think Grant and the kids ducking behind a fallen log during a stampede, Grant and Ian using the flares to distract the T-Rex, Grant, Ellie, and the kids going into the drop ceiling to get away from the raptors at the end, etc. My intention in how players might approach an encounter was definitely more along the lines of running / hiding / dodging and using their environment to their advantage if they didn't have a weapon. They might try to duck into vent systems, barricade a door, improvise a weapon out of a pile of lumber, etc. Kicking and stomping a compy definitely works, but running would be more advisable against a raptor—or, pushed into a corner, picking up a hammer from a construction site might just do the job. Or, if your character happens to have been in gymnastics, some quick thinking and a conveniently-placed set of bars could still help them take out a raptor. Because each round has a limited number of attack cards, if characters don't have weapons they can essentially use the rounds to attempt escape, or even wait out any encounter cowering, with a little bit of luck.
2. The intention was that players not only needed to leave the hex, but leave the entire territory in order to end the encounter—hence the inclusion of the territory map and rules surrounding it. The Apex Predator can and will pursue any perceived threats until they leave its territory once they are spotted. Because there are two apex predators on the island, essentially two hexes become extremely treacherous terrain and players must either risk traveling through them, or must find a way around them. The hope is that this adds variety to each session, and a little bit of extra strategy to the gameplay loop. Especially if one of those Apex Predators has decided that the territory with the Visitor Center is their new home.
Thank you for the response, that's extremely helpful guidance. We're gathering again for a game tonight so I'll relay this info. Much appreciated as always.
as a huge jurassic park fan i love this, i have used other systems to butcher a story but this is fantastic, could you please consider doing a jurassic world themed expansion? please??
A full Isla Sorna expansion will be coming, at the very least! However, for at least the foreseeable future you may want to work with the card templates to create additional Dinosaur Cards for JW play. Hopefully a full JW version will be in the cards (heh) down the line.
The premise looks really good! Although I noticed that the Gameplay Maps and Chaos cards cannot be downloaded; strange, because everything else works fine.
Strange! They seem to be working for me now. If they still don't work for you, I've added everything to a Google Drive folder as an alternative download. Thanks for the kind words :)
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Is there a good scenario for running at a convention in a 4 to 5 hour slot of time, somewhere in the book?
Any starting scenario could lead to a 4-5 hour game—the important part is to play all three phases of play. In the third phase, the group is required to rescue all of the remaining characters in the game, which can take quite some time. And if it's taking too long organically, the GM can just increase the rate at which the remaining characters are encountered. It's a very flexible game that way.
Hello,
Big fan of the content and I have had some good fun tweaking some of the elements of the game. Is there any chance to get editable versions of the downloadable products, so I can have more refined printed pages. Just to clear up some verbiage and typos. I would really appreciate it. Thank you.
Not releasing those base files at the moment, they're too complex and labyrinthine and I'll likely make an additional version of the game before I want to release them. But if you want to share your thoughts on improvements, feel free to join the discord or send any suggestions or documents over to jurassicparkedgeofchaos@gmail.com
Hi,
Some questions here :
- How many chaos, attack, dinosaurs do you have to print, I mean do you need multiple copies of the same card in your draw pile?
- Are there files (scenarios, dinos, locations,...) for the isla sorna version (found a map on a google drive) ?
Thx for the job, looks fun
Hi Flow—
1) I found that 1 of each Attack and Chaos card is ideal—though if you think certain events should be more common than others, you may want to throw in an extra of those—something like Bite may make for more realistic play, and having multiple Carnivore Attack cards would make for more challenging play. What I found is that Item, Weapon, Dinosaur, and Vehicle cards are the ones that need multiples in their respective decks—items like Keys, Medical Kits, and Food should have at least 2 if not 3 or 4 cards, ammunition and dart gun cards should have multiples, and Jeep Wranglers should be more common than other vehicles. If you want the main film characters to show up more than the ancillary characters, having an additional card of each of the leads is also a good idea. For Dinosaurs, any animal that can have a pack should have at least 3 cards—I ended up printing 5 Compys because their pack mechanic can really multiply, and 5 Raptors because I wanted them to be more common. I meant to put a guide together for printing, but I've been busy on some other projects. I'll try to get around to that at some point soon.
2) There are some maps, character cards, item cards, and weapon cards for the Sorna version that I completed for the alpha version of the game, but they're pretty out of date and don't fully match up with the updates in the system and the designs are quite out of date. There is a faction mechanic on Sorna (Hunters, Gatherers, and Scavengers) with the human element being as dangerous as the dinosaur element, taking inspiration from a combination of the Lost World film and book. The mechanics of Sorna would need to be significantly different, with each faction having different win conditions (e.g. the Scavengers of Dodgson, King, and Baselton having to collect eggs and get off the island) and while I'd love to get around to it sometime, it's really a full project in and of itself. My ambition got the better of me. Some day!
@EdgeofChaos first of all, thank you so much for putting this together. It's amazing!
Second, below is the count of each card I employed based on your comment and inferring the rest from what I think was the intent. Please let me know if you'd have any recommendations to adjust these numbers:
Any advice you can suggest on this list is greatly appreciated. I tried to imagine what your vision may have been but any guidance would help.
That's fantastic! You've more or less nailed it. I've taken a look at my set, which I've tweaked a couple of times for balance, and the only real differences I see:
Thanks so much! That's extremely helpful. :)
Hello!! Sounds like a great game to me. Very detailed in the data and the world. Will there be any Spanish translation project?
I know there were discussions amongst some community members of putting one together, but I'm an English speaker. If you have any interest in creating a translation yourself, let me know and I can share the raw text.
maybe some sarcos and elasmos too?
cool, hey could you make a mosasaurus card, since you use characters from the game?
TRADUÇÃO PT-BR/PT-BR TRANSLATION:
Eu traduzi o livro do jogardor completo, hoje dia 13/09/2024 eu esttou publicando aqui nos comenatarios para quem quiser, ainda estou traduzindo as cartas e mapas mas colocarei aqui quando tiver pronto.
agradeço dicas e sujestoes e qualquer coisa so aviasar aqui mesmo pelos comentarios.
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I translated the complete player's handbook, today 09/13/2024 I am publishing it here in the comments for whoever wants it, I am still translating the cards and maps but I will post them here when it is ready.
I appreciate tips and suggestions and if you have any questions just let me know here in the comments.
Link direto/direct link: mediafire: https://www.mediafire.com/file/56i8flm8fpnx7y3/Jurassic_Park_Edge_of_Chaos_%2528...
Conseguiu traduzir tudo ou necessita de alguma ajuda ainda, gostaria muito de ter acesso às suas traduções restantes.
Hey, first of all - I really adore the idea behind the cards, especially for animals, reflecting their instinctive behaviour. I'm planning to test the game soon. But I need some clarifications. How do stats work (in sense of mechanics/die rolls)? They are supposed to "determine the character’s abilities and effectiveness in various situations throughout the game", but I don't see any examples, except "while one (NPC) with high Strength could be pivotal in a confrontation with a hungry carnivore", but it isn't helpful. Am I missing something? Second - is there any difference between "Dinosaurs on the Brain" and "Animal Handling" expertises? They sound exactly the same. Do their effects stack? Another question - Search icon indicates, that an area is searchable and a 6 is a success, but some locations (e.g. bungalow) require halving the result. So according to the rules a PC cannot find anything there? Or they find something on a 3 (5-6 result on a die)? Or "natural" 6 always means success (I guess not, then halving makes no sense)? And last one - how does lethal damage work? The weapon cards lack any damage ratings. Does each weapon deal 1 damage per shot? Or some of them should be more lethal? Do PCs need to make a check to hit something? Anyway, great job!
Hey, appreciate the feedback! And great catches. I'm currently working with some folks on a second version of the game at the moment, and I'll definitely include clarification in these areas. What you picked up on is primarily stuff that was changed between drafts and never readdressed. For now, here are some thoughts:
Excited to hear the results of your test, would love any and all feedback on areas of improvement.
My gaming group just had our first run of the game. Everybody loves it, but I did face similar questions from my group as Haakwurm. If you could provide some clarity, I think the biggest questions that came up are:
Regardless of these first-time hiccups, everybody had a blast and enjoyed the rules-lite nature of the game. We all really got into it and have decided to continue playing.
Love to hear it! And this is all super helpful feedback for the next edition of the game where I can add some additional clarity around these points, or make any adjustments if players have recommendations for improvements. Any additional thoughts or anecdotes from the session would be welcome.
1. It is an attempt to replicate the scenes from the original film where these are not characters trained in combat, but civilians trying to survive. Think Grant and the kids ducking behind a fallen log during a stampede, Grant and Ian using the flares to distract the T-Rex, Grant, Ellie, and the kids going into the drop ceiling to get away from the raptors at the end, etc. My intention in how players might approach an encounter was definitely more along the lines of running / hiding / dodging and using their environment to their advantage if they didn't have a weapon. They might try to duck into vent systems, barricade a door, improvise a weapon out of a pile of lumber, etc. Kicking and stomping a compy definitely works, but running would be more advisable against a raptor—or, pushed into a corner, picking up a hammer from a construction site might just do the job. Or, if your character happens to have been in gymnastics, some quick thinking and a conveniently-placed set of bars could still help them take out a raptor. Because each round has a limited number of attack cards, if characters don't have weapons they can essentially use the rounds to attempt escape, or even wait out any encounter cowering, with a little bit of luck.
2. The intention was that players not only needed to leave the hex, but leave the entire territory in order to end the encounter—hence the inclusion of the territory map and rules surrounding it. The Apex Predator can and will pursue any perceived threats until they leave its territory once they are spotted. Because there are two apex predators on the island, essentially two hexes become extremely treacherous terrain and players must either risk traveling through them, or must find a way around them. The hope is that this adds variety to each session, and a little bit of extra strategy to the gameplay loop. Especially if one of those Apex Predators has decided that the territory with the Visitor Center is their new home.
Thank you for the response, that's extremely helpful guidance. We're gathering again for a game tonight so I'll relay this info. Much appreciated as always.
as a huge jurassic park fan i love this, i have used other systems to butcher a story but this is fantastic, could you please consider doing a jurassic world themed expansion? please??
A full Isla Sorna expansion will be coming, at the very least! However, for at least the foreseeable future you may want to work with the card templates to create additional Dinosaur Cards for JW play. Hopefully a full JW version will be in the cards (heh) down the line.
The premise looks really good! Although I noticed that the Gameplay Maps and Chaos cards cannot be downloaded; strange, because everything else works fine.
Strange! They seem to be working for me now. If they still don't work for you, I've added everything to a Google Drive folder as an alternative download. Thanks for the kind words :)
They are working now, it must have been a glitch; thanks for the quick reply!